Comments on: Supply Expired - HP Printer Ink Expiration Scam http://www.barplan.com/blog/home/2007/07/16/supply-expired-hp-printer-ink-expiration-scam/ Public Discussion on DIY Projects, Home Improvement, World Observations & Other Fun Stuff. Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:56:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: hardwareman http://www.barplan.com/blog/home/2007/07/16/supply-expired-hp-printer-ink-expiration-scam/#comment-536 hardwareman Sun, 09 Mar 2008 14:37:08 +0000 http://blog.barplan.com/home/?p=16#comment-536 Yes, I just found out that my Laserjet toner cartridges (4 color) all expired at the same time. Evidently the black is on a different "tracking" system. Cartridge World told me that HP puts a chip in the toner cartridges that count your number of pages. When you reach the limit, it cuts off. Cartridge World also stated that they have changed plenty of cartridges that were 1/2 full of toner! What a scam by HP. This should be illegal and a lawsuit should be brought on any company that would steal from its customers in this manner. Basically HP and other companies are telling US what we are going to pay per page for prints. Yes, I just found out that my Laserjet toner cartridges (4 color) all expired at the same time. Evidently the black is on a different “tracking” system. Cartridge World told me that HP puts a chip in the toner cartridges that count your number of pages. When you reach the limit, it cuts off. Cartridge World also stated that they have changed plenty of cartridges that were 1/2 full of toner! What a scam by HP. This should be illegal and a lawsuit should be brought on any company that would steal from its customers in this manner. Basically HP and other companies are telling US what we are going to pay per page for prints.

]]> By: WaldoOhio http://www.barplan.com/blog/home/2007/07/16/supply-expired-hp-printer-ink-expiration-scam/#comment-490 WaldoOhio Mon, 11 Feb 2008 02:14:25 +0000 http://blog.barplan.com/home/?p=16#comment-490 Oops, I forgot to note that I have an HP d145 which I inherited from my uncle. The "remove battery" trick lets me use the huge stack of black cartridges he left behind. Of course, all of them were expired. My uncle was an amateur photographer who printed his own greeting cards. So, he's found it cheaper to buy the color-black cartridge combo packs (I believe they were two color and one black per pack) than buy just the color carts needed. Right now I'm using a cart that expired in 2002! Dennis, still in Ohio Oops, I forgot to note that I have an HP d145 which I inherited from my uncle. The “remove battery” trick lets me use the huge stack of black cartridges he left behind. Of course, all of them were expired.

My uncle was an amateur photographer who printed his own greeting cards. So, he’s found it cheaper to buy the color-black cartridge combo packs (I believe they were two color and one black per pack) than buy just the color carts needed.

Right now I’m using a cart that expired in 2002!

Dennis, still in Ohio

]]> By: WaldoOhio http://www.barplan.com/blog/home/2007/07/16/supply-expired-hp-printer-ink-expiration-scam/#comment-489 WaldoOhio Mon, 11 Feb 2008 02:07:21 +0000 http://blog.barplan.com/home/?p=16#comment-489 Like everything, there is a way to get around the problem if you're willing to look around a bit. Go to http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/forums/inkjet/26847 and the find the solution I found in January 2008. Short version of all the posts there: Ger around the expired battery issue by taking out the button batter for about an hour. Do this either by removing the battery, as explained in http://www.land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/letters/hpPrinters.php Or simply putting a non-conductive material (the posts pretty much agree on a business card folded lengthwise) between the battery and the retaining clip. Latter parts of the thread have folks not returning the battery or removing the card and *not* affecting printer operation. Check it out. Dennis in Ohio Like everything, there is a way to get around the problem if you’re willing to look around a bit. Go to

http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/forums/inkjet/26847

and the find the solution I found in January 2008. Short version of all the posts there:

Ger around the expired battery issue by taking out the button batter for about an hour. Do this either by removing the battery, as explained in
http://www.land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/letters/hpPrinters.php

Or simply putting a non-conductive material (the posts pretty much agree on a business card folded lengthwise) between the battery and the retaining clip.

Latter parts of the thread have folks not returning the battery or removing the card and *not* affecting printer operation.

Check it out.

Dennis in Ohio

]]> By: Michael Seberich http://www.barplan.com/blog/home/2007/07/16/supply-expired-hp-printer-ink-expiration-scam/#comment-482 Michael Seberich Mon, 28 Jan 2008 06:13:55 +0000 http://blog.barplan.com/home/?p=16#comment-482 THE REAL BAD THING IS THAT IT HAPPENED TO ME WITH TOTALLY ORIGINAL INK CARTRIDGES. I BOUGHT 6 COLOUR & BLACK 2 OR 3 YEARS AGO, THEY ARE FULL AND NOT DRYED OUT BUT I ALSO HAVE THE SAME MESSAGE. PLEASE STAY AWAY FROM HP UNTIL THEY HAVE NOT CLEARED THIS OUT. THE REAL BAD THING IS THAT IT HAPPENED TO ME WITH TOTALLY ORIGINAL INK CARTRIDGES. I BOUGHT 6 COLOUR & BLACK 2 OR 3 YEARS AGO, THEY ARE FULL AND NOT DRYED OUT BUT I ALSO HAVE THE SAME MESSAGE. PLEASE STAY AWAY FROM HP UNTIL THEY HAVE NOT CLEARED THIS OUT.

]]> By: firkinboo http://www.barplan.com/blog/home/2007/07/16/supply-expired-hp-printer-ink-expiration-scam/#comment-38 firkinboo Fri, 24 Aug 2007 09:23:25 +0000 http://blog.barplan.com/home/?p=16#comment-38 Thank you for at least giving me a logical explanation! Exactly the same thing happened to me - I have an HP officejet d145 & an HP officejet d135. Sick of paying exhorbitant prices for HP cartridges I started to source recycled cartridges online & low and behold both printers have stopped working & display 'supply expired - replace cartridges' messages. I have replaced the cartridges 3 times & now the print heads but still the same message. Looks like HP have found a way to force people to stick with HP original cartridges. Unbelievable in this day and age that any organisation thinks they can treat their customers with such contempt & keep them - I too will never buy from HP again. Thank you for at least giving me a logical explanation! Exactly the same thing happened to me - I have an HP officejet d145 & an HP officejet d135. Sick of paying exhorbitant prices for HP cartridges I started to source recycled cartridges online & low and behold both printers have stopped working & display ’supply expired - replace cartridges’ messages. I have replaced the cartridges 3 times & now the print heads but still the same message. Looks like HP have found a way to force people to stick with HP original cartridges. Unbelievable in this day and age that any organisation thinks they can treat their customers with such contempt & keep them - I too will never buy from HP again.

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